Rossiter's MFP boots

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Rossiter's MFP boots

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As you well know, I’ve been putting together my ultimate MFP uniform. I have the AbbyShot jacket and the South Beach Leather pants, and those are as close to screen accurate as it gets right now. Boots, of course, are also an important part of the uniform. I’m happy with my Sportsman’s Guide boots, but they’re not close enough to the originals to truly satisfy. I was so impressed with jwrites' Russian officer’s boots conversion that I will get a pair of those in the near future—once my bank account has recovered from my latest adventure:

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Karol offered up a pair of original Rossiter’s boots and, deciding that this was probably my last chance to own an original pair, I talked myself into buying them.

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They were in pretty rough shape and needed new soles and a repair to the rear loop on the left boot.

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(Above pics courtesy of Karol.)

I looked online for a restoration place but wasn't comfortable with sending them away, so I took them to my local shoe repair guys (who had dyed and refinished a holster and altered my AbbyShot jacket for me) and asked to have them restored. The shop replaced the soles, repaired the torn loop and dyed and reconditioned them, plus they stretched the uppers a little so I can fit them over my massive calves. I probably could have had a replica pair made for less than what I’ve put into them, but since these boots are super rare, I figured it would be worth the investment. (And it makes me feel good to save a small part of Mad Max history for posterity.) Several weeks later, when I picked up the boots, the shop owner showed me a piece of one of the original heels. It was a shriveled wreck. I said, “Well, yeah. They’re 30 years old.”

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Now that I’ve compared the restoration with the original, I realize (much too late) that I should have been more specific about the restoration and provided pictures. They may have repaired them using modern techniques, but they didn’t stitch the soles per the original, which IMO is one of the most interesting details. On the one hand, I don’t see why I would have needed to specify that I wanted the soles done a certain way; it seems intuitive that if a customer brings something in to be restored, you’d want to get them as close to how they were brought in as possible. On the other hand, in terms of usability and/or "collector value," does it really matter? Having the boots resoled (I believe they'd already been re-heeled) has already altered them; they’re no longer “original.” And no one is going to look at the soles anyway, right? So is it a legitimate gripe, or am I just being particular?

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Having said all that, I just removed some of the straps from the boots so I could take the excess dye off the buckles, and found that except for the strap they had to remove to repair the loop, they didn’t remove any of the straps and instead dyed over and around them. For the price I paid, that’s completely unacceptable and they’re going back to be finished properly. And I’ll ask about the soles, too.

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Once that’s all done, all I’ll need is a Bonds raglan T-shirt and I’ll have the closest replica uniform possible, only 29 years after I started coveting one. Oh, wait—does anyone know what brand of socks and underwear they used in the movie? :)

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I'll post pics with the pants later. Maybe even the whole uniform eventually...
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Great post and pictures.
Sounds like you definitely need to find a new shoe repair place. I can recommend some great (and affordable) places here in LA, but that's too far for you I think.

Your costume is getting dangerously close to being the most screen accurate MFP uniform out there. My Rossiters are reproduction and yours are real, so you've got the edge there (and over most people since I'm hard pressed to think of another MFP outfit I've seen with real Rossiters).
Now it's a race to see which one of us can get a real Bonds shirt first. ; )

As for the soles - my cobbled soles really took a beating at RWW. All of the little rocks out there in the desert started to chew up my leather soles. I was contemplating having some rubber put on to protect the, but Karol got angry with me. He says I should just replace the leather soles everytime they fall apart. We'll see.

The other option for you on the soles is to have fake stitching put in. It looks the same but costs less. Not all leather guys do it, but it may be an option for you. For an event like RWW, nothing on the bottom of the shoe matters since everything from the knees down gets covered in dust the moment you take two steps. But for an indoor con or display purposes, that's when the details start to show (but yeah, even then, the bottoms of your feet won't be seen much - except when you show other fans your soles just to rub some authenticity in their face).
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Hey, if you guys want to go in on a group buy of Bonds shirts, you can count me in.
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I tried the boots on and it was tight at the top, around the thickest part of my calf. I tried them on with the SBL trousers and the boots are so tight that the legs won't go all the way in and the leather bunches up. I may have stirrups put on my pants after all (and grease them up before putting on the boots). Still, I think the only reasonable solution is to stop walking until my legs atrophy sufficently. Other than adding additional leather under the back seam, I'm not sure there's much more they can do to the boots as far as stretching. Damn my genetics!

I took them back to the shop today and they finished the spots they missed, plus the straps. I think it was just the spray-on dye finish that was missing; the owner, Dale, said that he'd used an oil-based dye all over, which I believe, considering that they were practically gray when I brought them in. I also asked him about the soles and he said that the stitching on the soles was "fake"--as in the stitching didn't go all the way through both (all three?) pieces of the sole (me not know shoe nomenclature). I did some Googling and learned something about Norwegian welt construction, and I thought this guy had a picture of soles with stitching, but maybe I just imagined it. If you're into handmade shoes, you'll probably enjoy this blog: http://carreducker.blogspot.com/2009/11 ... egian.html

Dale said that the most important thing was to protect the stitching, that you don't want to expose it to wear and tear by walking on it (a thought that had already occurred to me), which is why it's sandwiched between the layers, but that I could have simulated stitching done, as you suggested. The only problem with simulated stitching is that the nails go where the stitches were. The leather overlaps the leather so much that you can't even really see the stitching on the upper side of the welt, so I don't know that it could even be done again. Dale also jokingly told me not to bring them back to his shop to be resoled, because the new sole would be a bitch to get off.

So that's where I stand: on some nice-looking vintage boots that I will never show the soles of. (And will likely never wear the soles out on.)

Evan: The only problem is that Bonds has discontinued the light blue.
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Im going to grab a couple of white ones from here http://www.dugg.com.au/p/81432/bonds-ra ... -3937.html
and see if i can get them dyed the correct colour, ive called just about all around Victoria and the original coloured shirt is impossible to find.
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MadMaxImages wrote:Evan: The only problem is that Bonds has discontinued the light blue.
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Thst is nice to see some refurbished original Rossi boots, that is the nicest addition to a mad max outfit I have seen in a while!
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MadMaxImages wrote:Evan: The only problem is that Bonds has discontinued the light blue.
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MFP wrote
New Old Stock..... somewhere is a wherehouse full of em!
True, Ten will get you twenty if you find that wherehouse, the Arc of the Covenent will be two crates down. :mrgreen:
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