Alright, this is the thread to discuss a possible Lone Wolf build. Let me say right off the bat that (for me at least) it's probably never going to happen. But it would be fun, and I have a few ideas and I'd like to hear what you think too. So let 'em rip.
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Re: Building the Lone Wolf
I'm double-dog daring ya, Dave. You know you wanna build it... 
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Re: Building the Lone Wolf
I think it would be amazing, and I think that if anyone can pull it off, Dave, you can. 
But no pressure, you know?
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Re: Building the Lone Wolf
No,...no pressure at all,....but I'm upping the challenge to a triple-dog dare. No one can pass on a triple-dog dare.MadMaxImages wrote:I think it would be amazing, and I think that if anyone can pull it off, Dave, you can.
But seriously, mechanically it looks to be simpler then the Grand Prowler. Start with a dually truck, stripped and converted to center drive. The body work is mostly expanded metal. The rear engine can be a dummy, though I'd make it a running engine but not connected to the drivetrain. Not a lot of technical problems, just a lot of fabrication. Somebody please post some screen pics if they have them.
"There are over 550 million smallarms in worldwide circulation. That's one weapon for every 12 people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11?"
"The Teutonic reputation for brutality is well founded. Their operas last for 3 or 4 days and they have no word for 'fluffy'."
"The Teutonic reputation for brutality is well founded. Their operas last for 3 or 4 days and they have no word for 'fluffy'."
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Re: Building the Lone Wolf
You guys are killing me, God bless ya...
By comparison to the Humungus Machine, the build itself would be fairly easy. Moving the seat, shifter, and pedals is very do-able. The rest is just some steel that I'd need to get in the right shape, or have bent for me (such as the roll bar and exhaust pipes). I would have to get two gas tanks made (one for each side) and then hooked up. The old gas tank would go bye-bye. I'd have to find an old racing seat, and an engine for the rear. Also a blower hat for the rear engine.
About the whole two-engine thing, I think we had a discussion about it years ago. When I wrote up a story about the Lone Wolf, this is what I came up with:
"The vehicle's transmission is from a four-wheel drive vehicle. Except, the transmission is reversed. Each of the Lone Wolf's engines has a drive shaft coming to the transfer case in the middle of the vehicle. From the transfer case a single drive shaft leads to the rear axle. So, both engines provide power that is equally distributed to the real wheels. That is, if both engines are going at the same RPMs. The Lone Wolf has two gas pedals, side by side. The one on the left controls the front engine and the one on the right controls the rear. On the left pedal there is a siding metal bar, that when slid over connects the two pedals, giving equal gas to each engine. To save gas, Max drives the vehicle with only the front engine running and the four-wheel drive disengaged. When he needs more power and speed, he starts the rear engine, connects the two pedals, and engages the four-wheel drive. As unusual as the Lone Wolf is, it worked."
A friend of mine who knows about this stuff told me that it would work… except for the gas pedal set up. There would have to be something with much greater precision than a simple bar connecting the two pedals. The two engines would have to be running EXACTLY the same. Kind of hard to do when one is turbo charged and the other has a blower.
Does anyone know what they used for the ‘body panels’ (the curved flat pieces) in front and behind the driver’s seat? They look like some kind of weird steel mesh.
One more thing, can you just put dually wheels on in place of regular ones? I don’t see why you couldn’t.
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By comparison to the Humungus Machine, the build itself would be fairly easy. Moving the seat, shifter, and pedals is very do-able. The rest is just some steel that I'd need to get in the right shape, or have bent for me (such as the roll bar and exhaust pipes). I would have to get two gas tanks made (one for each side) and then hooked up. The old gas tank would go bye-bye. I'd have to find an old racing seat, and an engine for the rear. Also a blower hat for the rear engine.
About the whole two-engine thing, I think we had a discussion about it years ago. When I wrote up a story about the Lone Wolf, this is what I came up with:
"The vehicle's transmission is from a four-wheel drive vehicle. Except, the transmission is reversed. Each of the Lone Wolf's engines has a drive shaft coming to the transfer case in the middle of the vehicle. From the transfer case a single drive shaft leads to the rear axle. So, both engines provide power that is equally distributed to the real wheels. That is, if both engines are going at the same RPMs. The Lone Wolf has two gas pedals, side by side. The one on the left controls the front engine and the one on the right controls the rear. On the left pedal there is a siding metal bar, that when slid over connects the two pedals, giving equal gas to each engine. To save gas, Max drives the vehicle with only the front engine running and the four-wheel drive disengaged. When he needs more power and speed, he starts the rear engine, connects the two pedals, and engages the four-wheel drive. As unusual as the Lone Wolf is, it worked."
A friend of mine who knows about this stuff told me that it would work… except for the gas pedal set up. There would have to be something with much greater precision than a simple bar connecting the two pedals. The two engines would have to be running EXACTLY the same. Kind of hard to do when one is turbo charged and the other has a blower.
Does anyone know what they used for the ‘body panels’ (the curved flat pieces) in front and behind the driver’s seat? They look like some kind of weird steel mesh.
One more thing, can you just put dually wheels on in place of regular ones? I don’t see why you couldn’t.
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Re: Building the Lone Wolf
Even though it isn't full size,this has been done before and mentioned here also.Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdY8_vL4FE
Still,it would be cool to have one here in the states.Cheers,Bill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdY8_vL4FE
Still,it would be cool to have one here in the states.Cheers,Bill
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Re: Building the Lone Wolf
There was a ute in Car Craft years ago running a 351 in front and I think it was a 289 in the bed.
Both engines rigged to run Petrol/LPG dual fuel..
The 289 did pretty much nothing but act as a starter motor for the 351.
And here's what I think is the reason why...
A few years back, I spoke to a guy that fields a multi-motored Tractor Pull tractor.. I believe it was SIX Supercharged big block Chevy's.
He spoke of how difficult it was tuning these engines to be as close to not only exactly the same peak horsepower & torque but also exactly the same CURVES.
If these engines didn't behave as if they were exactly the same, it damaged drivetrain components rather quickly.
Very difficult, and this was with half a dozen blueprinted, precision machined..
With a Supercharged and a Turbocharged engine.. it'd be impossible to match them.
SO I figure the Lone Wolf had one engine as a starter/backup engine, and did NOT run both at the same time.
I'd hate to drive the thing, myself.. what with that 2nd engine sitting so high.
A tipover waiting to happen.
Ooh, here's an idea, they make lightweight plastic Dummy engine blocks...
I'd build it with just one operating engine (In the front) and the back one being totally fake.
Both engines rigged to run Petrol/LPG dual fuel..
The 289 did pretty much nothing but act as a starter motor for the 351.
And here's what I think is the reason why...
A few years back, I spoke to a guy that fields a multi-motored Tractor Pull tractor.. I believe it was SIX Supercharged big block Chevy's.
He spoke of how difficult it was tuning these engines to be as close to not only exactly the same peak horsepower & torque but also exactly the same CURVES.
If these engines didn't behave as if they were exactly the same, it damaged drivetrain components rather quickly.
Very difficult, and this was with half a dozen blueprinted, precision machined..
With a Supercharged and a Turbocharged engine.. it'd be impossible to match them.
SO I figure the Lone Wolf had one engine as a starter/backup engine, and did NOT run both at the same time.
I'd hate to drive the thing, myself.. what with that 2nd engine sitting so high.
A tipover waiting to happen.
Ooh, here's an idea, they make lightweight plastic Dummy engine blocks...
I'd build it with just one operating engine (In the front) and the back one being totally fake.
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Re: Building the Lone Wolf
a dummy engine in the back would probably the best way to go, since the engine would be fake, the blower could be fake too, how hard could it be to make a supercharger "box" out of sheetmetal? having the engine turn but not actually run would be cool, I have an idea how this might be possible....
I seem to remember a truck not to far from me with a large rectangle gas tank in the bed, not all that different from the ones on the lone wolf, so there's a chance you wouldn't have to make these tanks (but you could out of aluminum to save weight) but they might already be out there, you just have to look, maybe check around for junked buses.... maybe junked big rigs or old feed trucks & flatbeds, you probably wouldn't have to start with a diesel dually, just need the rear axle out of one,
aren't those smaller U-haul trucks & RVs dualies?:
to keep from having to stretch the frame, it might be a good idea to start with an ext, cab frame.
I seem to remember a truck not to far from me with a large rectangle gas tank in the bed, not all that different from the ones on the lone wolf, so there's a chance you wouldn't have to make these tanks (but you could out of aluminum to save weight) but they might already be out there, you just have to look, maybe check around for junked buses.... maybe junked big rigs or old feed trucks & flatbeds, you probably wouldn't have to start with a diesel dually, just need the rear axle out of one,
aren't those smaller U-haul trucks & RVs dualies?:
to keep from having to stretch the frame, it might be a good idea to start with an ext, cab frame.
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Re: Building the Lone Wolf
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I would go with a fake in the rear like the movie version.
As story wise goes, two engines makes sense, but they wouldn't have been used at the same time. One would have been a live spare. That way if your running from someone, or chasing someone, and you have engine problems (likely in the desert, with failing parts) , you drop one into neutral and turn on the spare, and your not going to be road kill.
As story wise goes, two engines makes sense, but they wouldn't have been used at the same time. One would have been a live spare. That way if your running from someone, or chasing someone, and you have engine problems (likely in the desert, with failing parts) , you drop one into neutral and turn on the spare, and your not going to be road kill.