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andre N
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various observations, questions

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Mad Max 1:

1)Underground Garage scene, what the hell was that "car" partially covered by a sheet? Looked like a land speed record car. Just something to look "fast" for the background? Realisitcally (yes it is only a movie)that wouldn't seem very practical for police duties, eh?

2)Did anybody catch the "organ harvesting" subtext?

g. Miller was a Dr. after all. Bubba Z--"must of cut his heart out, huh?"; ]Dr. administering to Jessie "she salvageable"

3) At the train station ,after his Nightrider diatribe, Toecutter flicks his eyes over to the old guy and says "bubba, Johnny," make a blowing out a candle gesture. Next scene two bikers are walking off with the old guy. What did I miss? Seemed like a order to kill, but the old guy reappears. Maybe the eye flick just meant nothing, and TC just meant get out of here. Any thoughts?

4) Check out the apparent different tires the Black Interceptor uses. First the scene where the car slowly pulls out to begin pursuing the bikers, and then the post "knee-shot" burn-out. Tires appear wide. Then check out the spin-turn/burnout at Kirks Bridge. Tires looks much narrower--likely changed to make manuevers easier. Similar to the skinnies on the pursuit special in the opening crash scene. PS, think the "rocket" might have been a pyro-charge for the final explosion.

5)When Max passes the tanker on the uphill, what was his problem? Was he running low on fuel? I think a VW beetle could have passed quicker.

MM2

1) Did anybody else think that in the start max was abusing the interceptor by "reverse braking" (slowing down the car by slamming it in reverse)? I did. Until, upon closer inspection, you can actually see it severe axle "hop" caused by braking on uneven surface.

2) Did anybody else think the "refinery people" were jerks? They stuck him with a tanker full of sand and he didn't know it. Pappagallo made that choice for himself (pretty noble) but he didn;t have the right to make that for Max. In fact, everybody would have had to be "in" on the deception, it was a pretty small camp. Anyway, they could have ran the tanker empty and given them a LOT better chance.

Thats all for now.
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Re: various observations, questions

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In Reply to: various observations, questions posted by andre N on June 29, 1999 at 12:09:35:


I think it kind of look like the papagallo car, but who the hell knows. My guess is it was something the mechanic was working on in his spare time. Remember he said he pieced the interceptor together, so it was probably just a project.

I think the toecutter just ordered Johnny and Bubba to get the old guy out of there so he could be alone with the nightrider, remember how he was standing there when they gang hauled that guy off on the motorcycle.

As for the Black car, the real tyres are larger than the front, I'm sure that they were the same size throughout the movie.

Max probably just left the car in gear instead of downshift to pass the tanker.

I also thought the refinery guys were jerks, except for the chick the gyrocaptain gets she's hot, but for the most part they have a reason. Their life pretty much sucks so they can be excused for not being polite. Although they were rather nice later in the movie. But about the tanker, they had no idea who Max was, so why not stick him with the fake truck, I would in the same situation. Why not send some guy you met four days ago to die instead of yourself.
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In Reply to: Re: various observations, questions posted by TheDarkOne on June 29, 1999 at 13:00:04:


BOY I'M GLAD THERE ARE OTHERS WHO LIKE WASTING TIME AS MUCH AS DO. RESPONSES BELOW IN CAPITALS.

: I think it kind of look like the papagallo car, but who the hell knows. My guess is it was something the mechanic was working on in his spare time. Remember he said he pieced the interceptor together, so it was probably just a project.

: I think the toecutter just ordered Johnny and Bubba to get the old guy out of there so he could be alone with the nightrider, remember how he was standing there when they gang hauled that guy off on the motorcycle. MAKES SENSE

: As for the Black car, the real tyres are larger than the front, I'm sure that they were the same size throughout the movie.

. CHECK THE MOVIE, SCENE JUST AS THE INTERCEPTOR COMES OUT OF THE SPIN TURN, AND IS SPINNING THE TIRES AND FISHTAILING, THEY LOOK MUCH LESS WIDE, THAN IN THE OTHER SCENES, IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I FRAME-BY-FRAMED, BUT I AM PRETTY SURE.

: Max probably just left the car in gear instead of downshift to pass the tanker.

SEEMS RATHER RELAXED FOR A "MAD" GUY WHO IS HELL-BENT ON AVENGING THE DEATH OF HIS FAMILY AND FRIEND--POINT WAS IT ALWAYS STRUCK ME AS STRANGE.

: I also thought the refinery guys were jerks, except for the chick the gyrocaptain gets she's hot, but for the most part they have a reason. Their life pretty much sucks so they can be excused for not being polite. Although they were rather nice later in the movie. But about the tanker, they had no idea who Max was, so why not stick him with the fake truck, I would in the same situation. Why not send some guy you met four days ago to die instead of yourself.

WELL, I REMEMBER PAPPAGALLO'S SPEECH COMPARING MAX TO A MAGGOT AND EXTOLLING THE VIRTUES OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CAMP, HE EVEN CALLS MAX AND "HONORABLE MAN" AS HE PLAYS WITH HIS HOURGLASS.

POINT IS, THE PEOPLE OF THE CAMP WERE THE 'GOOD GUYS', I WAS SURPRISED THAT THEY WOULD TO THAT TO MAX. IT SEEMS TO BE A SOMEWHAT WEAK POINT IN THE STORY--EVEN THOUGH IT MAKES FOR GOOD DRAMATIC SCENES: THE SAND FLOWING THRU MAXES HAND AT THE END.
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Re: various observations, questions

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In Reply to: Re: various observations, questions posted by andreN on June 29, 1999 at 15:43:08:


About the tyres, I haven't watched the movie in a while, so I'm not really sure, but for the guys in the refinery. Even if they were good guys, they can still do what they can to save their lives, even if they are the good guys. I think it makes the story more interesting and makes for a good ending like you said.
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Re: various observations, questions

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In Reply to: various observations, questions posted by andre N on June 29, 1999 at 12:09:35:


1. Yah, looks like a land speed car.

3. The toecutter says "Bubba, Johnny, then makes the blowing action, then, if you listen carefully, The Toecutter makes a loud "hissing" noise like a cat, Bubba and Johnny look up, startled, and then walk away slowly with the man, not harming him. GET IT?



: Mad Max 1:

: 1)Underground Garage scene, what the hell was that "car" partially covered by a sheet? Looked like a land speed record car. Just something to look "fast" for the background? Realisitcally (yes it is only a movie)that wouldn't seem very practical for police duties, eh?

: 2)Did anybody catch the "organ harvesting" subtext?

: g. Miller was a Dr. after all. Bubba Z--"must of cut his heart out, huh?"; ]Dr. administering to Jessie "she salvageable"

: 3) At the train station ,after his Nightrider diatribe, Toecutter flicks his eyes over to the old guy and says "bubba, Johnny," make a blowing out a candle gesture. Next scene two bikers are walking off with the old guy. What did I miss? Seemed like a order to kill, but the old guy reappears. Maybe the eye flick just meant nothing, and TC just meant get out of here. Any thoughts?

: 4) Check out the apparent different tires the Black Interceptor uses. First the scene where the car slowly pulls out to begin pursuing the bikers, and then the post "knee-shot" burn-out. Tires appear wide. Then check out the spin-turn/burnout at Kirks Bridge. Tires looks much narrower--likely changed to make manuevers easier. Similar to the skinnies on the pursuit special in the opening crash scene. PS, think the "rocket" might have been a pyro-charge for the final explosion.

: 5)When Max passes the tanker on the uphill, what was his problem? Was he running low on fuel? I think a VW beetle could have passed quicker.

: MM2

: 1) Did anybody else think that in the start max was abusing the interceptor by "reverse braking" (slowing down the car by slamming it in reverse)? I did. Until, upon closer inspection, you can actually see it severe axle "hop" caused by braking on uneven surface.

: 2) Did anybody else think the "refinery people" were jerks? They stuck him with a tanker full of sand and he didn't know it. Pappagallo made that choice for himself (pretty noble) but he didn;t have the right to make that for Max. In fact, everybody would have had to be "in" on the deception, it was a pretty small camp. Anyway, they could have ran the tanker empty and given them a LOT better chance.

: Thats all for now.
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In Reply to: various observations, questions posted by andre N on June 29, 1999 at 12:09:35:


: Mad Max 1:

: 1)Underground Garage scene, what the hell was that "car" partially covered by a sheet? Looked like a land speed record car. Just something to look "fast" for the background? Realisitcally (yes it is only a movie)that wouldn't seem very practical for police duties, eh?

: 2)Did anybody catch the "organ harvesting" subtext?

: g. Miller was a Dr. after all. Bubba Z--"must of cut his heart out, huh?"; ]Dr. administering to Jessie "she salvageable"

: 3) At the train station ,after his Nightrider diatribe, Toecutter flicks his eyes over to the old guy and says "bubba, Johnny," make a blowing out a candle gesture. Next scene two bikers are walking off with the old guy. What did I miss? Seemed like a order to kill, but the old guy reappears. Maybe the eye flick just meant nothing, and TC just meant get out of here. Any thoughts?

: 4) Check out the apparent different tires the Black Interceptor uses. First the scene where the car slowly pulls out to begin pursuing the bikers, and then the post "knee-shot" burn-out. Tires appear wide. Then check out the spin-turn/burnout at Kirks Bridge. Tires looks much narrower--likely changed to make manuevers easier. Similar to the skinnies on the pursuit special in the opening crash scene. PS, think the "rocket" might have been a pyro-charge for the final explosion.

: 5)When Max passes the tanker on the uphill, what was his problem? Was he running low on fuel? I think a VW beetle could have passed quicker.

: MM2

: 1) Did anybody else think that in the start max was abusing the interceptor by "reverse braking" (slowing down the car by slamming it in reverse)? I did. Until, upon closer inspection, you can actually see it severe axle "hop" caused by braking on uneven surface.

: 2) Did anybody else think the "refinery people" were jerks? They stuck him with a tanker full of sand and he didn't know it. Pappagallo made that choice for himself (pretty noble) but he didn;t have the right to make that for Max. In fact, everybody would have had to be "in" on the deception, it was a pretty small camp. Anyway, they could have ran the tanker empty and given them a LOT better chance.

: Thats all for now.

Also in the garage scene theres the Monaro that the Knightrider uses...look closely at the first car in the foreground covered with some clear plastic and also sporting the same type of red and blue police lights as max's yellow XB.
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