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Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:08 pm
by Taipan
scfc68 wrote:BTW, what is the Rashomon effect??
The Road Warrior and Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome are told from the perspective of eyewitnesses. The Road Warrior is told from a perspective of the Feral Kid. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome is told from a perspective of the tribe of the kids. This kind of storytelling leaves room for a lot of inconsistencies and continuity errors since each story is told by a 3rd party. That is the Rashomon effect.
This kind of approach also makes the original Mad Max the only movie told from the perspective of Max, therefore accurate. The sequels could be vague recollections of the events by some 3rd party at best. Fury Road might as well fall into that same 'retold myth' category.
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:11 pm
by DGSimo
Also another FYI but the "guest" on the AICN talk backs does appear to have seen the movie.
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:12 pm
by Taipan
@DGSimo
Wow, looks like Miller finally got to incorporate that theme he wanted to put in MMBT (remember there was supposed to be a scene when he has nightmares?). I mean Max being haunted by the demons of his past, literally.
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:15 pm
by DGSimo
Taipan wrote:@DGSimo
Wow, looks like Miller finally got to incorporate that theme he wanted to put in MMBT (remember there was supposed to be a scene when he has nightmares?). I mean Max being haunted by the demons of his past, literally.
Yeah. There was one viewer I spoke to who thought Max had no back story and the "flashbacks" made no sense and had no context, while the MM fan who has been giving us all the info said the opposite though felt a couple of the "flashbacks" could do with being removed due to how many there are.
Sooo..*shrugs* it is a rough cut after all and was the first time being screened before an audience so I'd expect some rough edges or even a running time cut down.
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:31 pm
by scfc68
Did any flashbacks show scenes from the previous movies, maybe in black and white or something??
Have to admit, that old footage from the World At War had a certain charm!
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:43 pm
by biolumen
DGSimo wrote:There was one viewer I spoke to who thought Max had no back story and the "flashbacks" made no sense and had no context, while the MM fan who has been giving us all the info said the opposite though felt a couple of the "flashbacks" could do with being removed due to how many there are.
I can't think of a film where having numerous flashbacks worked well, so that's a bit of a concern for me. I understand the need to provide a little backround for Max's state of mind and motivation, but I'm wondering if there might be a better way. Still, flashbacks are much preferable to having characters explaining things to the audience via lengthy expository dialogs like those used by a certain popular director.
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:05 pm
by DGSimo
biolumen wrote:DGSimo wrote:There was one viewer I spoke to who thought Max had no back story and the "flashbacks" made no sense and had no context, while the MM fan who has been giving us all the info said the opposite though felt a couple of the "flashbacks" could do with being removed due to how many there are.
I can't think of a film where having numerous flashbacks worked well, so that's a bit of a concern for me. I understand the need to provide a little backround for Max's state of mind and motivation, but I'm wondering if there might be a better way. Still, flashbacks are much preferable to having characters explaining things to the audience via lengthy expository dialogs like those used by a certain popular director.
I was just told they're literally just flashe's that aren't full flashbacks or anything.
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:34 pm
by biolumen
Hmmm. Not sure if that's better or not. I just hope they're there to service the story or develop the character rather than to simply pander to the fanbase. With Miller at the helm, it's probably mostly the former, with a little of the latter.
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:55 pm
by Artemis Flow
It's easier to think of it this way - Fury Road takes place after the events of MM1 ( wife n kids get killed by marauders , world goes to crap ) in the 2014 timeline , so now if Miller wanted to make a prequel he would be remaking MM1 with Hardy as Max , Fury Road is an alternate MM2 you might say
The original trilogy is stand alone and is history that finished with BTD
Mad Max has been reborn like Batman and Superman etc , all the same back stories but just rebooted for a modern audience , I wonder if they will sell it as Mad Max 4 as this is gonna confuse the heck outta a lot of people , I think it will be just Mad Max - Fury Road
Re: Test audience screening Wed 4/30
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:14 pm
by Uncle Entity
Alternate Earth, parallel dimension. I've been saying this for years. Nobody believed me. This is a new Max with a different DNA (he doesn't look as Mel Gibson to begin with) living in a slightly different Mad Max world.