Quote: Originally posted by Bubbas_seat on 17 July 2003
kwakka: no big surprise about Bisley.
and the whole motorcycle gang guys seemes to be flirting with the late 70s punk scene. which means they probably listened to Iggy Pop and the Ramones. when they weren't reading Shakespeare of course.
Flirting... wha??? Only music I recall anyone flirting with was Nightrider. Quoted AC/DC and paraphrased Bruce Springsteen. That's it. Nothing resembling Johnny Rotten or Joey Ramone. Maybe Iggy Pop, but that would be a stretch. So if these fellas had music at their parties I would imagine that certainly AC/DC and maybe Motorhead or something along those lines. I could actually imagine the guys from those 2 bands in the Toecutter's gang. They're not punks - they're trash scoot jockeys. Bikers. That music fits their lifestyle.
But on the subject of the Nightrider, I've often wondered about his place in the gang. Clearly Toecutter was the leader in the absence of NR. But what was NR's rank? TC's #2? The gang leader? Or was he just revered after his anti-heroic murder of a Bronze, and subsequent martyrdom? Everyone in the gang seems oh-so-enamored with NR, from a monkey like Johnny the Boy to the "sophisticated" (i.e., gay) Bubba Zanetti. I tend to think that TC was still the leader when NR was there too, as evidenced in NR's ramblings in the beginning of MM: "The Toecutter - HE knows who I am!" Was that NR searching for confirmation/recognition from TC? His expression seemed to say that he was trying to impress the TC by his actions. (my apologies if this topic has been discussed, debated and decided already) He possibly could have been trying to indicate to TC that, in fact, he himself should be (or remain?) the gang leader because he had the big balls (ha - another AC/DC reference). This idea seems a bit undermined by the fact that with 2 Bronzes killed in the film, perhaps killing one was a right of passage, and NR was just coming into his own. But that would kinda put him on the level of JTB, who was little more than a junkie dingbat monkey, while NR was a full-on "terminal psychotic."
Eh. Ideas?
I didn't see him riding around with a blond b/f on the back of his bike. He struck me as a very hetro sotra dude. Yeah, Bubba happened to be neat and careful with his appearance but that's just part of his personality. I don't think it that makes gay.