guns in the Mad Max trilogy

[Tycho]

You know, I live in the Uk and there isnt actually waves of tyrannicly anarchists marching in the streets mugging people. Just in case you thought there was. In fact, you can go out in broad daylight without being armed.

[Deaths Head]

Yeah the shotgun in part MM3 is a totally different one. And comeing from someone (me) who owns a 1911 and 2 Glocks I would put the Glock up against any other pistol any day, although I love my Springfield .45.

[Eichenlaub]

In a post apocalyptic wasteland, I'd go for a bow and arrow.


And I think that gun laws wouldn't matter as civilization began to collapse.


Gun running would become big business.

[toecutter]

ummm in a democracy i think that what people want gets done.





in oz the majority clearly wanted reformed weapons legislation.





now, i agree, its impacted some peoples lifestyles. but i dont regard it as a human rights issue.





i note a preponderance of AK variants in media coverage of iraq. citizens are freely armed.





yet a war has been fought over, among other things, repression of the citizenry.





so how exactly does the ability to own any weapon i choose grant me a better quality of life and enhanced human rights ?





i think the australian democratic model works fine. if we dont like our govt, they get turfed. and they do.





on this issue, the govt had something like 90% public support and bipartisan political support from all levels of government, except some rural national party members in marginal seats.





now can i add here, that i didnt agree with confiscation and destruction of semi-auto longarms, but i respect the spirit in which the decision was made and value highly the freedom that we as citizens have that is not available in other countries with poor human rights records yet liberal firearms laws.





under any close scrutiny, the argument linking firearms ownership to enhanced human rights and democracy does not add up.





perhaps its an emotive issue linked to some nations historic attachment to firearms. in which case they can do what they like, im not convinced that model of democracy is the best one.

[rockatansky4073]

I think our gun laws are brilliant, i wouldn't have it any other way, i mean of course when it all first happened, back in 96, i was really pissed off, i owned a large number of guns, all registered, and i had to give them all up, cept my GLOCK, it was the one gun i'd obtained illegally, and noone cept the people i baught it from knew i had it, so it was the only one i kept.


Even if i didn't own it, i'd feel completely safe, Its bad enough that our entire youth down here embraces AMERICAN culture, in particular the RAP culture, i don't give a sh*t that they dress like you yanks and try to talk like you guys, but i draw the line at carrying guns and shooting up schools. Aside from the BIKERs and SKINHEADs down here, noone has any access to guns, and believe it or not, aside from the occasional little gang fight reported in the paper, those two groups haven't been reported for shooting anyone in years.

[HUMVEE Driver]

Swords in Mad Max


I think that swords aren't very common in the Mad Max world because:


1. You need some skill to use one. Without the skill/training, you might as well swing a baseball bat, axe handle, or some other simple club because you would be just as effective with it and clubs are easy to find.


2. Almost all "swords" out there are cheep imitations. After a little use they would get dull and break. Real swords that are combat-worthy are very rare.


3. You might cut yourself if you're not careful. Might as well use a club (see #1.)


That's all.


HUMVEE Driver

[Anklecranker]

Punisher,


I bet Rosie O'Donnell's bodyguard's have a gun of some sort. Tom Selleck proved what a hypocrit she is.


My choice of weapons? Glock 40...have a new Glock 10 millimeter on order, and a Winchester Defender riot gun....Eight in the gun and six on the side saddle.


Either one is ideal for home protection.

[THE PUNISHER]

That was it? You guys really aren't as agressive as some of the people who don't like the way I preach. Ok, Toecutter, owning a gun does not in any way give you rights, owning a gun IS a right in and of itsself. I'm not saying democracy is perfect with all its happy-happy sunshine government run-around, but where the whim of a single person and their lackeys can remove every single item OF ANY KIND from the hands of an entire nation isn't exactly on my to-do list. What next? There's always a what next, no matter what. True, we yanks love our guns, but why should we give them up to somehow, by some stretch, punish the ones who use them irresponsibly or for criminal reasons. There is no resaon why. and there probably won't ever be. First things first, keeping guns doesn't give you some enhance human rights or a better quality of life, but it does insure that whatever happens, you will have the ability to protect it. And if nothing happens, then what? Then you have the right to take care of a collectible piece of history that you can hand down or you can have the right to let it rust to pieces in your closet, that doesn't matter. What does matter is that you have it and you shouldn't have to just relinquish it for someone to destroy.


Now Tycho, stow that BS for another day, that's not what I said and you know it. Waves of tyrannical anarchists or not, there's no way you can efficiently protect yourself in an emergency. Nobody thinks it'll ever be them on "the telly" the next day, but fact-o-the matter is, violent crime is rising at a fevered level in the UK and there's no end in sight. I'm sure the British people are very violent at heart, but just imagine what would happen if America were disarmed? Every dirtbag on the face of the earth would feast on the innocent without end. Americans criminals are very independant, and very aggressive. When they see something they want, they take it. And very commonly ask for seconds. Wait, that's right, they don't ask, they just go right ahead and take. What are limeys gonna do next? Give up cigarettes when they come for them? How about your polluting cars? Or your shoes, since lots of people get kicked every year, they simply must be stopped. I can see the headlines.


"British Citizens Call for Order After Outbreak Of Kicking, - All Shoes In the Nation Relinquished Willingly By Concerned Citizens."


It 'aint so rediculous from this side of the fence, pal, in fact I am getting concerned. My combat boots are equivalent to AK-47s in the shoe world. They would come for me first. Especially that pair I keep loaded in the closet for self-defense kicking. Enough of you, Taco, I've got others to rebutte.


Hey Rockatansky, don't you f---ing dare refer to Rap as American culture. Don't you DARE. Rap has nothing to do with America except for the fact that it resides mostly here. The only place it can reside, as they embrace all the bad stuff that flows freely through our jail system. They breed freely and openly in the lesser-policed areas of the country and flourish without any help from any government. They are weeds, they are a disease, and they have no place in my home. Whatever glamorous pose rap is set to in Aussieland by the youth, it is not a tenth as violent and pathetic as the rap culture here in the states. Whatever you see, just imagine those same people gathered into large numbers patrolling the streets waiting for one or two people to be coming home for work at night. Imagine taking a stroll down the street and seeing these guys coming the other way. How would you feel about gun ownership then? How about when they're intent on beating you to death for your pocket chance and your half-pack of ciggs. 'Aint no karate in the world gonna save your hide from one heck of a beating and a long-lasting fear and humiliation that accompanies it. Whatever you think the problem people are in Australia, there are about a billion more violent felons or felons-in-training roaming the streets than over there, and they have another fifteen billion illegally-obtained guns to them, ready to stop all over law and order. They go to prison, they learn from the willing tutors exactly what they did wrong to get caught, then they go free to do it worse. And they usually don't do it to their own kind, just the rest of America. You remember them, right? the hard-working honest, caring people that are on the endangered species list nowadays.


About rights, you seem to have gotten it into your head that all Americans are being forced into buying guns to protect themselves or to hunt with, but that just is sooo far from the truth. Part of having a democratic nation is having the CHOICE to go out and buy a gun or not. Most people don't have guns and don't have any use for one. Most people don't hunt and most don't see a need to buy one for any reason. Most people are generally sheep and listen only to what the popular television personality is at the time. That is unfortunate, sad, pathetic, hopeless, but true. So Teocutter, 90% public support doesn't exactly add up to 90% objective, intelligent people. What you don't seem to see is that here in America, 90 percent of people would elect Christina Agulera to the senate. It's so terribly good that she's not running. "The spirit in which the decision was made" was a spirit of panic, fear, and political garble. We were the ones who lost the twin towers, we can take it, there's no need for a country literally on the other side of the world to completely disarm. No way, no how. I see a group of nervous Nellies running things and they make very off-handed, turn-of-the-wind decisions. As for the Middle-Eastern populous carrying AK's wherever they go, do NOT compare the two. The Middle-Eastern countries have been killing and pillaging each other for about five thousand years, as far as we can think back into history. They are warring tribes-people and they are engrained with every cell of their being to fight with anything that upsets them. They are ruled by tyrants and warlords. They live in a state of constant military action. Americans do not, are not, and will never be anything of the above as long as I have anything to say about it. You will not be able to pick the majority of gun owners in the states out of a crowd. Gun banners are quick to portray gun owners as wild-eyed, camoflaged extremists. Truth is very painful indeed, as we are so very, very plain and ordinary! The police are doing their best, but they are fighting the problem AFTER it becomes a problem. To solve it beforehand, we need to change the way we thing about the United States and its governmant as well as all its rules and all its morals. The youth of America is so bored with the world that they see no other way to act than to be a legion of little pecker-head scumbags, the only way they can be a part of something bigger than their own meaningless existence.


And rockatansky, that whole melting thing was a little thing called sarcasm,...





but Glocks still suck.

[THE PUNISHER]

Thanks for that one, Ankle, maybe Rosie should've been protesting anti-GAYS intstead of gun owners, she could've actually been doing something to prolong her soon to be over career. She gets greedy about her voice-on-paper magazine and they kick her out.


Hey, Humvee, you are absolutely right in every piont. Im more into swords than I am into guns, and the metal cheeze they put out today is disgusting. If they replaced all guns with swords, there would be about twenty sword deaths a year, and no more, simply because the masses are so stupid when it comes to the use of swords, they would just throw them away in their ignorance. You would see within about two hours a sudden and alarming increase in liquor store robberies with swords. Funny but true.

[Anklecranker]

Hear! Hear!


Rap music...didn't they leave the "C" off that word?





I collect swords as well.