What's wrong with this picture?

[rockatansky4073]

Damn! i go away for a week and everyone (ADE in particular) covers all the commetns for me - thanks bro, that pic of RECKONING will be my wallpaper for this week LAND OF THE DEAD coms out on DVD in the US. in a few weeks, already got my copy pre ordered.


Check out BATTLETRUCK - you'll find most of 'DEAD RECKONING's influence comes from the design of that - long pointed armour nose, 50cal. guns pointed out the sides of the trailer etc.

[Bronze21-MFP460]

Does anyone know what the base/original vehicle was that was used to make the Aliens APC? I'm thinking it was probably a diesel-engined construction chassis of some sort...maybe a mining loader/tug because of the low height, and they added the plating to it. If you notice during the movie, they never show the people running into it from a distance, so they probably built a close-up mock-up that had the interior room to get in. I'm thinking if it is actually a mining tug, the engine would be in front of the rear wheels. The other vehicle I've thought about is airport aircraft tugs from the 60's and 70's. They have about the same shape...just curious...Cheers.

[Tom Millan]

Quote: Originally posted by Biker on 12 October 2005




Those bugs ate all soft furnishings including flesh. Titanium Tom? Naaaahhhhhhhh they'd break their little peckers on that! !

Biker

Just shootin' the breeze.LOL. They sure left their victims bones all nicely polished.





Tom

[Mad Max 2050]

Ok lets look at some of the evidence for there being 2 cars at the Creek Bed/Giro scene.


First off, Biker's picture is at the same place.





Same tree just in front of the car. So that kinda establishes that it represents the same scene, Max is also holding the crow bar, just like in the scene too. Its not clear here, but the same picture is on the inside of the CD soundtrack cover and is a lot clearer, no scanner or i'd have posted it too...





Ok now the car in biker's picture has window wipers too, where as the car that rolls up at the start of the scene has none:





And also this car has a standard steering wheel, not the Max Rob like the Original car...





Also note the mesh behind Max's head, its right behind the seat....


We now look out of the window to the creek bed...





And the car has suddenly gained it's wipers...


And now as the car moves forward, look how far back behind the seat the mesh and stuff is compared to before.





And he's got the Max Rob steering wheel again.





With me so far????


Now the stance of the cars,


Look at the top photo again and the one below:





I'd say that the backend is sitting pretty low, compared to earlier in the film during the chase,





Really high, as it should be.


And what about the front end damage to the cars?


The fake interceptor





Most of the Monza nose is missing, but a small section remains on the driver's side and look at the strenghtening bars along the front, look pretty straight to me.


Now as the front is smashed off:





All the monza is gone, and the bars are buckled in, consistent with the rear ending it gave the Landau.


I'd say its pretty conclusive myself, that the 2 cars were used, they probably took them both to each shoot, and i'd guess the Real Interceptor was kept good until the end when i think they shot the opening scene and the front was smashed off it, just incase they needed teh good car for a re-shoot or something


http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/interc ... tory2.html


Backs this up too..

[Foxtrot X-Ray]

I'll have to dissagree on the mesh behind the seat..





Both package trays are BEHIND the Rollbar which looks to be in the same place on both cars.. directly over the join between door and quarter windows.

[Bronze21-MFP460]

IT'S CONCORDE! CONCORDE!...not Monza! Monza nosecones were used on HOLDENS. They were both developed by Arcadipane, but the Concorde nose was used on the FORD XB panelvan concept vehicle, hence the "broken" or "bent" lines on the side of the facia in the original 'glass when fitted to stock XB's without the "blown" square fender flares. Monza nosecones were developed for Holdens and had four slits in between the much more squared-off headlight openings which didn't usually have plex covers. The Monza nose also had different shaped radiator and brake vent openings below the bumperette. The sizes are different as well in the height as well as width. Ads from 1977 had them both going for about $200.oo to $395.00AU. And NO, they did NOT fit the American fastback, GM Monza cars.


http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/Replic ... achine.JPG


"Brought to you by the Council for Uneducated Max Fans."

[Mad Max 2050]

Well i'm gonna have to disagree with your disagreement Foxtrot





Id say the one on the right, in the Real Interceptor, is about 6" at least further back than the one on the left from the fake car.


And again when the Gyro's tied in the car its a long way back





Bronze, I think most of us here know its a Concorde front end but the name Monza's stuck, just like the Interceptor is really the Pursuit Special, but the wrong name's stuck...

[Bronze21-MFP460]

I know...it sounded pissy. Sorry. I was trying to sound sarcastic like the Simpson's comic guy but fell flat. Must be work-influenced. I work in the automotive industry, and everyone calls it a "dashboard" when it's really called an instrument panel. Dashpanels or dashboards are actually the slanted/angled piece of metal below the vertical firewall and connected to the floorpan/chassis. Dashboards were the wooden planks mounted as a drivers footboard and as a dash panel to stop the flinging of poo from the horse's hooves on old wagons. I work with people that make bad English an artform. Hell, they don't even speak good American. They would make a hillbilly cringe...it's like Romper Room in here...lol.

[Foxtrot X-Ray]

Okay, in those pics, it does appear that one is further forward and further up than the other..


So hard to tell in some of the pics we have, isn't it?





In the pic I highlighted, it still looks to me that the tray is the same..


Could my highlighted pics be in the same car?





In these new pics, the picture on the left looks much further back than the one on the right to me. Right side looks to be just shy of a foot back from the rollbar and the left looks like more than two feet.





Another possibility is the tray isn't the same on both sides of the car(s). This of course would disprove my opinion that my highlighted pics show that the tray is in the same position in both sides.


(not arguing, mind you.. Just throwing out possibilities)





Still & All, there's definit noticable differences between the Stunt & Closeup cars.








As far as "Pursuit Special" & "Interceptor" terms are concerned I figure both are correct.





There are two occasions when the car is referred to by title.. One it's called "Pursuit Special" This, in theory, could be the dispatcher "underagerrating" the car (calling the car something less than it really was) so as not to cause panic with the MFP Officers.





Can you imagine what they'd all say if they realized they were after their best driver in their best car??

[Bronze21-MFP460]

To me though, if Max was getting something "Special", it would have a name higher than Pursuit, which means to chase or follow closely. Interceptor means to overtake, head off, stop. But, I guess Pursuit Special sounds cooler than Interceptor Special. Interceptor Custom sounds better because the BoB was built from a piece from here and there and is a higher rank than Pursuit or even Pursuit Special, befitting their top driver with the biggest threat collection.


Pursuit - March Hare (older car being phased out), Big Bopper (newer standard car)


Pursuit Special - Stolen Holden (older trial prototype for Interceptor, one off, anomally)


Interceptor - Maxs' Yellow XBGT (newest standard addition)


"Interceptor Special" or "Interceptor Custom" - (BoB absolutely one-of-a-kind, last of the V-8's)


...just my two Ruples.