FURY ROAD COMIC CON TRAILER IS HERE!

[Uncle Entity]

i REALLY really REALLY just HATE this whole reboot/reimagine, whatever bullshit. it's just bullshit.

You're in the minority. And this movie doesn't need you anyway. Goodbye.

[leadcounsel]

That's why I get so angry when people shoot down Fury Road because it doesn't fit in between MM1 & MM2 nor it is a sequel to any of them, that everything looks over the top, ridiculous story etc. Those kind of arguments are moot as they stem from the lack of understanding what Fury Road is. But I can understand the reason for criticism - the label 'reboot/reimagining' is broad and can lead to a lot of confusion. To me there's a clear line that should be drawn between Fury Road and the originals. I believe that's how Miller wanted it to be.

Taipan,
You seam to have a vested interest in Fury Road and have been critical of those that do not share your enthusiasm and perceived "understanding" of what you believe Miller wanted. Ones opinion about how FR fits into MM or criticism of the big explosions, unrealistic cars, and mutants running around the wasteland is not a lack of understanding of FF but is one's opinion of what THEY want in a MM film. Nor do I believe that it is confusion between reboot/reimagining. I am a fan of Star Trek and looked forward to the reboot, but feel that JJ Abrams screwed it up by not paying attention to basic Star Trek science, 13 minutes to warp from Earth to Vulcan, transwarp beaming, Kahn is needed to build superior ships, come-on. Nor does it exempt a great director from screwing up an established franchise, simply because he is a great director. Shall I list Indiana Jones 4, SW ROTJ or any of the prequals, the special editions or even that Han shot first?

I am a huge fan of MM and honestly feel that FR can fit in with the series between MM2 and MMBTD if not even after MMBTD. I never subscribed to the BoB being THE very last interceptor but the last design of Pursuit Specials that were scrapped because of funding etc. The FR BoB doesn't even have a boot spoiler, twin tanks, correct exhaust, nose bumper, etc. so it could be one of a few Pursuit Specials and Max could have snagged it off of another ex-MFP officer after the events of MM2. Even if you look at just the wear in his jacked shows it is well after MM2. There are huge possibilities that FR could be part of the storyline especially if MM2 and MM3 are 15 years apart making Max late 30s early 40's and fit in the realm. If it is intended to be a reboot and another Fast and Furies car crash spectacular with guns and mutants thrown in because that is the rage to sell tickets then so be it. However, as a long time fan I would be disappointed in the direction Miller took the series while still enjoying the movie.

However, as a long time fan who has read up on the development AND after watching the trailer I sit with reservations on how this will turn out next Summer when I sit and watch the entire move and not just a trailer or a bunch of hypotheses on a discussion board. With that said, ones opinion and disappointment in the movie based on the trailer, their love of the originals, AND that it differs from yours does not make their arguments moot and should not make you "so angry".
Just my 2 cents
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Mike

Thank you Mike. I concur 100%.

It would be like doing another Star Wars where Obiwan isn't dead, and the death star wasn't blown up and the characters are named Han Skywalker and Luke Solo... WTF is the point? Just make a different world if you're going to scrap the entire trilogy that came before.

[Flynner]

My two cents worth and why I'm looking forward to it....

Ultimately it comes down to tone. I can go with one being an exploitation film, the next being an action film and the third being an adventure film as long as the tone remains consistent.
Despite some great world building in BT Miller dropped the ball in regards to tone. Hell, I didn't even mind the storyline with the kids. What I did mind was the film becoming jovial with frying pans in faces & kids kicking guys into vats of pig crap. The hard edged world of Max became blunted. If that hard edge was kept intact (less comedy, more brutal & unforgiving, a few kids die) it would be a lot more fondly remembered film by many people.

It's early, but FR looks very much to have the tone of the first two films and that is why I love the trailer.

In regards to story, I give Miller more leeway than many people. It's a chase film. Give the gangs some reason to chase down Furiosa. If that means The Brides and some not entirely satisfying importance to them....then so be it. It sounds like a longer more important story regarding Furiosa would bleed over into another film anyway.

As far as exact timeline, small contradictions & nitpicking over minor details I could not give a rodents behind. Except for the first film the whole saga is a VERBAL history of the legend of Max, and therefore open to interpretation & wrong information. Someone, somewhere got it wrong about when the Interceptor gets wrecked. Get over it. Only the first film could be considered canon (Max was a cop, wife & kid died, maybe a reference to leg brace). Would I want Miller to jump the shark and introduce a talking mutant kangaroo sidekick? Of course not, but Miller gets past most minor quibbles by being smart enough to have Max's story told by other people long after the events. There will be some who cannot get over this & treat it as a cop out in regards to continuity, but it is a very important & deliberate part of the Max universe.

....anyway, the trailer still had lots of practical effects & stunts and most importantly the tone looked right. FR looks like it's gonna kick ass!

[Desloc]

One last thing is many people speak about visual effects, action, explosives, music, cutting edge use of CGI etc for Fury Road, however, in the end it is about story telling. I remember the hype about Avatar and everyone speaking about the visuals, colour, music, cutting edge special effects, and how it was a great, must SEE movie. In the end, once one got passed the visual dynamics, one found that it was nothing more than a rehash of Fern Gully set in space.

I have great hope for this and I am a fan of Miller, however, after BTD, I will continue to reserve judgement until I can see the movie on the big screen, Haji Video, or read the actual plot on wikipedia. Remember Miller also brought us Babe in the Big City and Happy Feet 2.
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Mike

[DetritusMaximus]

One last thing is many people speak about visual effects, action, explosives, music, cutting edge use of CGI etc for Fury Road, however, in the end it is about story telling. I remember the hype about Avatar and everyone speaking about the visuals, colour, music, cutting edge special effects, and how it was a great, must SEE movie. In the end, once one got passed the visual dynamics, one found that it was nothing more than a rehash of Fern Gully set in space.

I have great hope for this and I am a fan of Miller, however, after BTD, I will continue to reserve judgement until I can see the movie on the big screen, Haji Video, or read the actual plot on wikipedia. Remember Miller also brought us Babe in the Big City and Happy Feet 2.
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Mike

There are many ways to tell a story, they do not all have to be done the same way. One appeal to the original movies is the 'realness'. I've mentioned it before that there is very little that requires the viewer to suspend their disbelief in order to accept the movie. Looks real, feels real, no comic bookness, I don't mind the cgi being used for background and atmospheric effects, but I want the cars real and the stunts real (even if safety cables were removed digitally). It just plain looks better. having said that, I really liked Avatar. I thought it was done beautifully and was stupendous visually. It is a different kind of movie that appeals to a different part of me. That movie could not possibly be done with real effects and look good. However, initially I didn't care for the vehicles when the first pics started popping up on the forum. But I have grown to like them (if anyone remembers my thoughts on the Caddy, well I still don't like Cadillacs, but the Gigahorse is no longer a Cadillac to me. We'll see how it looks in the movie). from what I see in the trailer, my only tow concerns right now are the cgi cars in the cgi storm (this part of the movie may be a let down for me as it looks like a little too much improbability, I'm in agreement with some others on that part) and Miller's comment about processing imagery faster and the old movies being 'languid' (you actually can have very fast action and hold one camera shot for more than two seconds. The pacing of the action is decided BY the action, not how many edit cuts you make in one scene. The crashes in the trailer are perfect examples of linear action that carry the viewer thru the action. Rollerball is a great example. You actually follow the game in the original movie and it is brutal. The remake is filled with quick cuts that break up the action so it is hard to follow exactly what is going on and thereby diminish the affect of the violence on the viewer. Basically the quick editing is a crutch to give the impression of lots of action and it kills the mood and tension of the scene.

As for plot, there has not been a single ground breaking plot in more than 50 years. All anyone, including Miller, have done is redress them as something else and find new ways to tell old stories.

[biolumen]

DGSio is conspicuously absent from the board today. I wonder if he made it out to LA for the screening.

More pics, courtesy Empire Magazine.

[Lonewolf]

[quote="biolumen"]DGSio is conspicuously absent from the board today. I wonder if he made it out to LA for the screening.

More pics, courtesy Empire Magazine.



Great to see Max still has his Rossiter's. In the trailer, in a scene or two showing closeups of a foot pressing the gas pedal looked like it was Max with some generic boot type footwear. Glad to see in this picture, he still retains his originals.

[Lonewolf]

A sense of dread is starting to come over me. Now that the trailer has come out, all these youtube reviews are coming out and praising what was shown at comic-con on Mad Max. They all seem to be jumping on a bandwagon because of all the great buzz surrounding this new film. And that's OK, the trailer is worth the praise. But I feel that the majority of these people were not true fans of the original trilogy and are just going with the hype. Again, nothing wrong with that. But I feel the true die hard fans who had love for this series from long before the fourth installment was even in the works are being undermined as it were. This was a low key love affair for a series that felt like a great kept secret we could share with other movie lovers who weren't as familiar with these films and enjoy a "out of nowhere experience" with friends. Now it's like "Wow have you guys heard of this new movie starring Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron, that looks awesome and I can't wait to see the series and play the game." It just feels like to me, that most people of today stumbled upon this great idea without appreciating it's roots, nor the fans that kept this franchise going with all it's support over the many years. It's great to see it flourish, but it no longer (to me at least) feels like 'Our thing' so much as it is like 'A thing'. If you catch what I'm saying.

[MWFV8]

A sense of dread is starting to come over me. Now that the trailer has come out, all these youtube reviews are coming out and praising what was shown at comic-con on Mad Max. They all seem to be jumping on a bandwagon because of all the great buzz surrounding this new film. And that's OK, the trailer is worth the praise. But I feel that the majority of these people were not true fans of the original trilogy and are just going with the hype. Again, nothing wrong with that. But I feel the true die hard fans who had love for this series from long before the fourth installment was even in the works are being undermined as it were. This was a low key love affair for a series that felt like a great kept secret we could share with other movie lovers who weren't as familiar with these films and enjoy a "out of nowhere experience" with friends. Now it's like "Wow have you guys heard of this new movie starring Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron, that looks awesome and I can't wait to see the series and play the game." It just feels like to me, that most people of today stumbled upon this great idea without appreciating it's roots, nor the fans that kept this franchise going with all it's support over the many years. It's great to see it flourish, but it no longer (to me at least) feels like 'Our thing' so much as it is like 'A thing'. If you catch what I'm saying.

I think this has been a fear here for a long time.

I think that's why I felt strange when I first saw the trailer, it's like we've moved into a new era now.

[Lonewolf]

A sense of dread is starting to come over me. Now that the trailer has come out, all these youtube reviews are coming out and praising what was shown at comic-con on Mad Max. They all seem to be jumping on a bandwagon because of all the great buzz surrounding this new film. And that's OK, the trailer is worth the praise. But I feel that the majority of these people were not true fans of the original trilogy and are just going with the hype. Again, nothing wrong with that. But I feel the true die hard fans who had love for this series from long before the fourth installment was even in the works are being undermined as it were. This was a low key love affair for a series that felt like a great kept secret we could share with other movie lovers who weren't as familiar with these films and enjoy a "out of nowhere experience" with friends. Now it's like "Wow have you guys heard of this new movie starring Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron, that looks awesome and I can't wait to see the series and play the game." It just feels like to me, that most people of today stumbled upon this great idea without appreciating it's roots, nor the fans that kept this franchise going with all it's support over the many years. It's great to see it flourish, but it no longer (to me at least) feels like 'Our thing' so much as it is like 'A thing'. If you catch what I'm saying.

I think this has been a fear here for a long time.

I think that's why I felt strange when I first saw the trailer, it's like we've moved into a new era now.

Yeah, like this hot girlfriend as it were that we always knew had potential and was super cool and worth a lot, but who has now become too famous as we knew she would and has been taken away from us by people who never took proper notice of her before like we did.