MM2 Gangs (Theories)

[rockatansky4073]

I never thought of the Berzerkers as Cops, and they were only ever labelled that after the N2 TOYS figure was released, the movie and the novel refer to them as the GAYBOY BERZERKERS (stick on the subtitles you'll even read HUMUNGUS shout it out during the skirmish Max and Gyro are watching) just cause they're clad in leather i don't think make them MFP - the MFP all had different style of jacket for starters.
Also i don't think the Tow truck Skins were actual politically motiveated Nazi Skinheads, i think they're just Vermin who shave their heads and for lack of a more convenient term for them are called Skinheads - though a couple of them do wear the uniform of the boots, cut off pants and even braces on one of them.

I also alwyas liked when the Vermin approach the compound with the 'offer' from Humungus, how each breed of the Army have a representative, kind of a leader to head their group - each with a body to suggest which compound member they took down. The RED XAleads the Berzerkers in the Street Racers, the Dune Buggy with all the packs on the roof lead the Smegmas, the Black Towtruck lead the Skins and Wez ofcoarse leads the Mohawk bikers.

[mahenoguy]

I'd have to disagree about the "Gayboy berserkers " not being cops . The silver helmets , The silver I.D badge on the left upper chest of Jacket , The sirens and flashing lights on most of their vehicles , The aviator sunglasses , the fact that all their uniforms are the same , are all indicators that kennedy / miller were portraying them as ex-police . Perhaps The M.F.P were a specialist wing of the police . I always considered the MFP as being a private security Company ( The scene with the Financier and Fifi listening to Max's reaction to the Interceptor hints heavily towards private funding not state funding ) . however they were funded , there were more than just our main characters at the Hall of Justice ( the officer that collected Candollini's hand from Max and Jess , who wore the same basic uniform as Max & Co ) .
I'd have to agree the Skinheads were not Nazi's ( Even though a Nazi link is hinted with Humungus ) . The fact that they Drag away the Body of the dead "Golden Youth "( An obvious homosexual ) and seem to respect Wez's sexuality doesn't really strike me as the actions of Facist Idealists .

[MWFV8]

I also alwyas liked when the Vermin approach the compound with the 'offer' from Humungus, how each breed of the Army have a representative, kind of a leader to head their group - each with a body to suggest which compound member they took down. The RED XAleads the Berzerkers in the Street Racers, the Dune Buggy with all the packs on the roof lead the Smegmas, the Black Towtruck lead the Skins and Wez ofcoarse leads the Mohawk bikers.

That's a really interesting analysis. And it makes the marauders seem a whole lot more scary.

[MWFV8]

I'd have to agree the Skinheads were not Nazi's ( Even though a Nazi link is hinted with Humungus ) . The fact that they Drag away the Body of the dead "Golden Youth "( An obvious homosexual ) and seem to respect Wez's sexuality doesn't really strike me as the actions of Facist Idealists .

Thing is the actions of Facist Idealists in real life are often hypocritical, many of them in jail are gay.

Plus, would you dare tell Wez you didn't approve of his sexuality?

[roadwarriormfp]

Perhaps The M.F.P were a specialist wing of the police . I always considered the MFP as being a private security Company ( The scene with the Financier and Fifi listening to Max's reaction to the Interceptor hints heavily towards private funding not state funding ) . however they were funded , there were more than just our main characters at the Hall of Justice ( the officer that collected Candollini's hand from Max and Jess , who wore the same basic uniform as Max & Co ) .

The MFP was a specialist branch set up by the government to try and destroy the roaming gangs on the highway.
(This is all explained in the novel version of MM). In effect it was its own "Police" force, seperate to the state police.
It was not a private company. Like all government dept. there would be a bunch of public servents running around in the back ground. Fifi would need funding approval to build Max's car. No difference to real life.

[Player of Games]

many of them in jail are gay.

Maybe that has more to do with jail than with their sexual preferences before they went to jail.

The nazis did use skull symbols like the one painted on a car ( can`t remember which one) and the one inside Humungous' pistol case. But the marauders seem to be too diverse to represent a fascist group, too many open references to S/M, coloured hair etc.

[MWFV8]

many of them in jail are gay.

Maybe that has more to do with jail than with their sexual preferences before they went to jail.

You're missing my point. I was trying to say that in desperate circumstances like jail groups such as fascist extremists can behave very hypocritically and put their beliefs to one side to suit their circumstances.

I'd say the marauders were in a pretty desperate situation. I think they would have turned a blind eye on Wez's sexuality to survive.

In fact it only reinforces the overall point that these gangs would not usually group together, but things are so bad they have to. I am sure there would have been internal conflicts within the marauders groups but they are making the best of a bad situation and led by a man who'll choke you unconscious if you don't follow his orders.

[rockatansky4073]

Yeah i dunno, i think if they were cops they would be kinda like Max and roam alone and still have an upstanding, respectful way of life, avoiding Marauders when they could - i mean ofcoarse not all of them but theres atleast 7 or 8 in the Vermin and atleast 4 or 5 of them would have to not agree with the carnage - also why the face masks? sure they got the leathers, helmets, and shades but why the leather mouth mask?
Also flshing lights and sirens don't mean they are cops - The Towtrucks have hazard lights, and the Charger has a red ight not blue, the XA doesn't have any lights at all, the Statesman has only one blue one, the Valiant doesn't have any - its an interesting idea but is purely opinion decided - only George could tell us the truth.
And i still think the Nazi thing isn't an issue - yeah sure the Humungus is somehow related to a Nazi, but the only Nazi imagery is the SS Deathshead in his case, and the vehicles that have it are Wez's bike, the rear panels of the Red XA, the same area on the Statesman the door of the Landau and the centre of the Iron cross on the Dune buggy, and the Iron cross is more a german symbol than just Nazi (though look at what real life Bikers have done with it)

I always thought Humungus just chose the Deathshead as the sybol of the Vermin because its a menacing symbol it epitomises DEATH, its not your average jolly roger it stands for alot more.
I am covered in tattoos, but my Deathshead up on my right shoulder is the one that gets the most comments, and i've got LEATHERFACE and PINHEAD tattoo's man! and yet people comment on that first.

[Bad cop]

I never really thought of the marauders as Nazi's, but I was curious to see if anyone else felt different.

[the armourer]

I recall us covering this before, but the 'Deathshead', or 'Totenkopf', had it's origins long before the association with the NSDAP Party. It's roots go back over 200 years. It is not a purely Nazi symbol.