Top Ten reasons why Thunderdome went wrong

[81mfp]

im going to go against everyone well everyone who hated it lol but i actually liked it ok mm and mm2 were classics but it did pick up on some good ideas such as max growing up and taking on more of a human quality that he lost in 1st film even in mm2 he was pretty shut off the pig shit idea was pretty cool to fuel the town and cars

the main problem was as said in previous posts its compared to mm2 same way aliens was never topped

the only car i hated was the cow car it was as bad as the terminator putting on elton john glasses lol

the songs were awsome the truck max drives is bad arse

my main thing i didnt like was they should of made the gyro captain the same guy

[aussie muscle]

in which the vehicles are now totally unrecognizable from their original state

I think you just hit on the main issue i have with the movie. yeah, we all want that 'human' element and all that, but as a rev-head, the cars are what interest me other than Arkie Whitely.
overall , BTD has much better production values, but it's still number 3.

[81mfp]

i aggree dude lets not forget the end chase was just as good as mm2 the train truck combo was awsome and somthing iv not seen in a movie since and lets face it the one of the living build up was spine tinglin still makes me shiver a lil each time i watch it lol

[Yok_Rzeznic]

You know what, yeah it's the least best MM film, but they're all good so it's a moot point.

The dramatic drop-off in vehicular action is pretty sad though, it really was a big part of the canon, but it certainly made them work harder on storyline and diverting the action to new territories, like hand-to-hand combat which wasn't really seen at all in MM (Goose punched Johnny, that's about it) and the hints of it in MM2, where 99% of the action was pretty much vehicular or weaponised.
The fact that Max, for a change, has to concentrate on utilising weapons and tools to get by, and the fact that he isn't actually 'driving' a vehicle until he steals the Mack 'train' bought something new to the table.

Surely, the movie didn't take itself seriously enough like the first two, the characters started getting too cartoony and less realistic (Not to say that Humungous was realistic, but you need a rather flamboyant gesture to mark an evil leader type) and the kids were really an overpowering flavor that should have been boiled down a bit...

But MMBT is the only one, so far, that actually leaves the viewer feeling hopeful at the end and no uncomfortable or uncertain; MM had a very anti-hollywood ending. There was no celebration, no redemption, just the explosion and Max going his own way to who knows what, quite a bold ending for a movie that had no intention of continuing.
MM2 had a glimmer of hope, sure, the good guys survive and make their way to their own paradise of sorts, but again, Max is just there, staring off into the distance not knowing what to do or where to go, or why. Coupled with the ominous music during the final scenes and the credits, it's surprisingly depressing.
BT, on the other hand, with it's epilogue, the scenes of a ruined Sydney and the fact that the survivors started something new and, what was apparently the future where they had sustained a life there for what seemed to be some time, was the only real glimpse of people getting on with a good life and still talking about Max as a legend, with the hope that he will return to what they say is where he belongs. Max is seen wandering as normal, now on foot and with primitive weapons, we don't know if that scene is immediately after their escape or in the time that the 'future' in the final scene is set, but now he has a goal, at least. Coupled with the tasteful crescendo of music that sounds a little more like classic MM soundtrack and not the convoluted mess the rest of the score was, it is quite a powerful moment, probably the strongest ending in the series.
Which to me, is the best bit about it, it puts a very nice cap on the end of it all.

It makes me wonder what they intend to do with Fury Road, the ending will have to be a strong point there, hopefully they won't overdo the connection with later movies, setting itself up for another sequel or hinting at Beyond Thunderdome, with any luck it should be just as open ended as the rest of them.

Also, you can't go past Frank Thring, though it bothers me how a man can remain so large in such a society.

[Stef-Man]

Great post, Yok. I personnally think Thunderdome is the "Never say Never Again" of our beloved franchise. This 007 movie is supposed to be the last James Bond film chronologically. For me,Thunderdome is the very last opus because Max has fully accomplished his inner journey and became "human" again: after all, he did the ultimate sacrifice at the end of the movie! He should be dead. So every Mad Max movies in the future should be set before Beyond Thunderdome, for this reason I think.

I believe, when Mel Gibson was involved back in the early 2000's, that Fury Road was originally set after Thunderdome, due to Mel's age... but the ending of MM3 is so beautiful and powerful that it is the perfect ending for our hero and should be the last Mad Max movie chronologically. Of course, if Fury Road is a reboot, those thoughts on the topic are useless...

[81mfp]

you all just nailed it right on the head thats what i was trying to say if they do fury road i think it will be a huge mistake and a middle finger to the fans if they do a rocky 6 and ignore tb ever happened n take off were mm2 left off now thats all fine and dandy aslong as its set inbetween the 2 kinda if not just do a batman begins on the whole thing but tbh i really do have faith in part 4 i defo think tom hardy can pull it off but yes you raised a great point about the open endings as it allows us veiwers a chance to make up in our minds how he went off

on an interesting side notee i wonder what a spin off of the great tribe would of been like

also in fury road how cool would it be to show a flash back of the supposed cut seen were the bikers go back to the mfp hq n kill the rest would give me goose bumps

[lord humungus]

there is a time when i would have agreed with you whole heartily. i didn't like TD for the longest time. but then i grew to a manhood and watched the movie with new eyes and saw the direction they were going with this one that felt like a natural progression of the apocolypse and does tend to hold up. now i am not saying it's by any means perfect. but the more objectivly i looked at it,both as a max fan and a critic, the less i started to hate the film and actualy started to like it on it's own merrits. that's not to say i don't understand the hate for the movie,it's different. but it's for that reason that mel was even on board again for a 3rd movie and again i think it keeps the series for flat out repeating itself to the point of making the series cliche. could it be better...of course. but is it the abomination everyone feels it is. hardly.

i think once fury road and fruosia come out we might even grow to enjoy TD since it looks like these reboots hit there may be an even bigger different feel to the series. i am not asking anyone to like TD but i would say to give TD one more chance. you might be surprised at what you find.

[DetritusMaximus]

I like the saxophone filled Bartertown theme music the night Max challenged Master Blaster....and the clanking industrial bits.

[81mfp]

somthing else maybe some missed was the fact there wernt that many vehicals and chases involving them but if you think back to the start of the film maxes truck is pulled by camels so this means petrols rare and hard to come by now untill its converted to run on pig shit in my mind thats genius

[seriz]

In an interview, given to a movies mag, somebody..perhaps Miller, said that, at the beginning, it wasn't writen as a MM movie, but as a post apocalyptic movie.

You remember in which magazine was that ? Because I remember exactly the same stuff, and didn't find yet in which one...