Straight-6 to V-8 Engine Swap in 1975 XB

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Straight-6 to V-8 Engine Swap in 1975 XB

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.. this question is for anyone that might have attempted this before.

How extensive is the difference between the motor mounts of the factory Straight-6 and a V-8 / 5.7 for the 1975 Falcon XB

Does the frame cross-member (k-frame) need to be changed or just the motor side mounts, or both?
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As long as you fit a 302/351 cleveland all you will have to change are the engine mounts, it would be a good idea to have the brace of the K frame strengthened,all related transmissions C4/10,fmx auto, single rail borg warner, toploader manual will bolt up to the gearbox mounts under the car, i dont know if the yoke on the diff will except a uni from a 9 inch prop :?: six cylinder cars have a single heat shield under the floor pan, where V8 cars have twin, this can be made from a patch panel and welded into place, the front springs will also need to be upgraded from 6 cyl to V8.

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The frame stands that the motor mount bolts to are different between 6 and V8,but since they are bolt on pieces,you just need to get some.I have a spare set of V8 stands here in Oregon if you need them.The trans crossmember can be moved forward or back depending on the trans used.If you are doing a V8 conversion,get a 1970/71 Torino/Montego/Fairlane 9" rear end.It is a direct bolt in other then the main brake line for the XB is on the left side and the Torino is on the right.So either get a custom,long flex line to the splitter or move the splitter and lines from the XB 8" onto the 9".I have a bunch of these rear ends also,but shipping could be a bit to Nevada.Once you have a V8 and 9" under it,just get a Torino/Mustang/Montego/Fairlane/Cougar drive line and have it cut down to fit.It is easier and cheaper to cut one down then have a new one built.Make sure the U joint size is the same for the driveline as the rear end.What motor/trans are you installing?Cheers,Bill
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Bill....question about the 9" diff: the US bolt ins obviously are not disc brake set ups, any idea if the backing plates etc from a BW diff would fit?
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.. thanks to you guys for responding.. but I was out-bid last night.. was thinkin' bout making an Yellow Interceptor replica with this:

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I don't know if the backing plates and drums would swap from the BW to a 9",it would depend on the shape/size of the housing end flanges,but since a BW is an integral style rear and the 9" has bolt in axles instead of 'C' clips,I would guess no.Cheers,Bill
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torinoscj wrote:I don't know if the backing plates and drums would swap from the BW to a 9",it would depend on the shape/size of the housing end flanges,but since a BW is an integral style rear and the 9" has bolt in axles instead of 'C' clips,I would guess no.Cheers,Bill
Thanks Bil...... I would prefer to keep mine rear discs so i'll either find a diff from here and then swap on some Aussies rear discs or wait until I find a decent compete diff from one of the suppliers.
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Hey Doug,the Aussie rear discs are a total PITA,the rotor is held onto the axle end by the wheel studs,are only 28 spline and require a special deep cup clamp to remove the axle bearing,which is also an Aussie ONLY part as it is a double width bearing.You would be much happier getting a set off of a 95 and up Exploder.Even though it is an 8.8,'C' clip style rear,the disc brake stuff will go right onto a 9" rear end,or you can just get the Motorsports kit from Ford or REALLY step up and get some Wilwoods.
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torinoscj wrote:The frame stands that the motor mount bolts to are different between 6 and V8,but since they are bolt on pieces,you just need to get some.I have a spare set of V8 stands here in Oregon if you need them.The trans crossmember can be moved forward or back depending on the trans used.If you are doing a V8 conversion,get a 1970/71 Torino/Montego/Fairlane 9" rear end.It is a direct bolt in other then the main brake line for the XB is on the left side and the Torino is on the right.So either get a custom,long flex line to the splitter or move the splitter and lines from the XB 8" onto the 9".I have a bunch of these rear ends also,but shipping could be a bit to Nevada.Once you have a V8 and 9" under it,just get a Torino/Mustang/Montego/Fairlane/Cougar drive line and have it cut down to fit.It is easier and cheaper to cut one down then have a new one built.Make sure the U joint size is the same for the driveline as the rear end.What motor/trans are you installing?Cheers,Bill
Hey Bill, this is really useful. Looks like we will be doing a 6-cyl sedan soon (converting to V-8) so I may try and talk you out of those stands....
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March Hare wrote:.. this question is for anyone that might have attempted this before.

How extensive is the difference between the motor mounts of the factory Straight-6 and a V-8 / 5.7 for the 1975 Falcon XB

Does the frame cross-member (k-frame) need to be changed or just the motor side mounts, or both?
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