the mad max ford falcon

[Bloke with bumless leather pants]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by slippery sam on March 03, 2000 at 05:59:53:


: : : : Hence where Barry says "She's got phase 3 heads".... ?

: : : I havent got the movie here with me but I'm pretty sure Barry says "phase 4 heads" ? anybody?

: : You sure you aint thinkin bout them Pontiac ram air 4 heads? LOL my friend is busy portin a set for his 13 to 1 comp 455 thats goin in his 78 Firebird

: : He does say Phase four heads.... Unfortunately on one real Phase four XB GT was ever built, and a few racing models...although i dont know hows many phase four engines were ever released though

Yep thats right Sam, thats what i was thinking Barry meant, ford actually made four phase IV's, but they were XA's, 3 of them have been wrecked and apparently one still exists but the project was canned before any of these cars made it to bathurst, this was partly due to some dogooder writing an article in the paper questioning the wisdom of young inexperienced blokes being able to get behind the wheel of relatrively easily obtainable cars which could crack the 140mph+ mark, that and the fuel crisis and pollution controls which strangled them.

They continued making XA GT's after that, but not the mighty phase IV, then when the XB GT came along it was pretty much watered down, then when the XC came along the fairmont GXL or Cobra were the closest you could get, slooooooww.

I would love to see the XA phase IV which apparently still survives, owned by some ford suit i think.

[roadwarriormfp]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by Bloke with bumless leather pants on March 03, 2000 at 18:49:40:


:As far as im aware the only registered phase4 XAGT is still owned by a dentist in Sydney. There are supposed to be about three other in exsistance (one wrecked) the others are in race gear.

Ford said that the Phase4 wouldve run the quarter mile in under 14.5secs and a top speed of 242km/h (273km/h for the race models at 7000rpm)

Most of the parts made for the Phase4 were sold off or sneaked into some XA GT model known as RPO 83 (or Phase3 and a half !)

RPO 83 cars were fitted with a 780cfm Holly (with manual choke), specially made extractors, modified oil sump, a tacho that went to 8000rpm (instead of 6000 for normal GT) and most also had rear disc brakes.

The writting of that newpaper article didnt really kill off the Super Car craze, but just set the ball in motion.... but it still was a sad day for aussie motoring... and Ford has never really got back into the swing of things..When Ford reintroduced the EB GT range (25 years later) it was a flop.... the car was basically out of reach of the average bloke due to extremly high costs and all the flares and wings made it look awful.

The car ran the quarte mile in 15.4secs..a full one second slower than the last GT built 25 years earlier..hows that for progress!!!!!

[Grant Hodgson]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by THE PUNISHER on March 03, 2000 at 05:15:47:


Hi Bart, Grant here, if your gonna post stuff like full of shit etc, email me privately and say that, do not stick your foul mouthed crap on our precious message board, and uh BUDDY do your sums with tyre size and diff ratio verses engine rpms and you tell me what speed you are doing with a wide ratio top loader and 7800 rpms with a 2.75 ratio and 245/60/14 tyres, tell me what speeds you get and put the answer here do it in first gear, and you will find I am correct, and I have witnesses to back up my story, also tell me what top speed you get at direct drive? you WILL be surprised, and Bart I used to build motors for a living and can tell you that all this is NOT fictional and has been done!

so Please get back to me with your answer.

[Grant Hodgson]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by THE PUNISHER on March 03, 2000 at 05:17:37:


Hey Bart, you know that much about your Fords that Barry said twin over head cams, phase 4 heads!

Clevos were not twin over head cams, and I dont exspect you would know anything about our phase 4 falcons as the were discontinued and only 3-5 I think made it off the production line and there is only 1 or two remaining,

[Bloke with bumless leather pants]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by slippery sam on March 03, 2000 at 23:21:20:


: :As far as im aware the only registered phase4 XAGT is still owned by a dentist in Sydney. There are supposed to be about three other in exsistance (one wrecked) the others are in race gear.

: Ford said that the Phase4 wouldve run the quarter mile in under 14.5secs and a top speed of 242km/h (273km/h for the race models at 7000rpm)

: Most of the parts made for the Phase4 were sold off or sneaked into some XA GT model known as RPO 83 (or Phase3 and a half !)

: RPO 83 cars were fitted with a 780cfm Holly (with manual choke), specially made extractors, modified oil sump, a tacho that went to 8000rpm (instead of 6000 for normal GT) and most also had rear disc brakes.

: The writting of that newpaper article didnt really kill off the Super Car craze, but just set the ball in motion.... but it still was a sad day for aussie motoring... and Ford has never really got back into the swing of things..When Ford reintroduced the EB GT range (25 years later) it was a flop.... the car was basically out of reach of the average bloke due to extremly high costs and all the flares and wings made it look awful.

: The car ran the quarte mile in 15.4secs..a full one second slower than the last GT built 25 years earlier..hows that for progress!!!!!

Yeah the EB GT was slower than the EB sprint, but cost a packet more.

I wouldnt turn my face up at an EB GT if i found one at a nuce price , but i must say its not a car i have given much thought to, it was all a bit of a flash in the pan, big new one day forgotten the next.

Ford really needs to get their act together and start turning out some hot 8's.

For now the XR6 would be my pick from the ford stable, preferably the ute

[THE PUNISHER]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by Grant on March 04, 2000 at 04:31:37:


: Hi Bart, Grant here, if your gonna post stuff like full of shit etc, email me privately and say that, do not stick your foul mouthed crap on our precious message board, and uh BUDDY do your sums with tyre size and diff ratio verses engine rpms and you tell me what speed you are doing with a wide ratio top loader and 7800 rpms with a 2.75 ratio and 245/60/14 tyres, tell me what speeds you get and put the answer here do it in first gear, and you will find I am correct, and I have witnesses to back up my story, also tell me what top speed you get at direct drive? you WILL be surprised, and Bart I used to build motors for a living and can tell you that all this is NOT fictional and has been done!

: so Please get back to me with your answer.

Eeeeeasy there Grant,aint nobody after you,and i said it was bullshit,and i'm sorry opinions are like assholes,everybody has one,GRANTed you did own a original movie car,but jeez man climb down of ole Mr. Ed there ,you act like Mr. shit don't stink.and i'm not comin off like mr. knowat all believ me i'm faaaar from it,its just i don't believ yer car hits 65 mph in first scuuuse me ,count to 10 bro,i know ya hate my guts ,but cmon

regs

Bart

[THE PUNISHER]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by Grant on March 04, 2000 at 04:37:29:


: Hey Bart, you know that much about your Fords that Barry said twin over head cams, phase 4 heads!

: Clevos were not twin over head cams, and I dont exspect you would know anything about our phase 4 falcons as the were discontinued and only 3-5 I think made it off the production line and there is only 1 or two remaining,

huuuh?twin overcam what? Grant,when the hell did i say the 351 C 4v heads that ole Barry said were twin camm? cmooon dude i've known bout Fords and their respected engines since i was knee high to a bar stool.heres a line from Conan the Barbarian,rememba my son without me"the U.S"you would have neva been,suure Oz made a stronger version of the 351 C,but they were first made famous in the Mach 1's.and i know Barry said phase 4 heads,i was just messin with whoever wanted to know if he had said phase 3 or 4 jeez pardon me for havin a lil fun

regs

Bart

[roadwarriormfp]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by Grant on March 04, 2000 at 04:31:37:


: Hi Bart, Grant here, if your gonna post stuff like full of shit etc, email me privately and say that, do not stick your foul mouthed crap on our precious message board, and uh BUDDY do your sums with tyre size and diff ratio verses engine rpms and you tell me what speed you are doing with a wide ratio top loader and 7800 rpms with a 2.75 ratio and 245/60/14 tyres, tell me what speeds you get and put the answer here do it in first gear, and you will find I am correct, and I have witnesses to back up my story, also tell me what top speed you get at direct drive? you WILL be surprised, and Bart I used to build motors for a living and can tell you that all this is NOT fictional and has been done!

Well id have to agree with you Grant...(natuarlly!!) So i have to add my 3 cents worth.

I own an XB with a standard 351 and C4auto(stage2 shift) Although mine would probably destroy itself reachin over 7000rpm !!..i have seen up to 65km/h (41miles) in first at a lazy 3600rpm.(approx)

My diff says its a 2.92 (?? this correct?)and i have 235/60/14 tyres.

I dont doubt Grants figures at all..

I am no expert at drag racing, but most Fords here run C4/C6 autos and 7000/8000rpm is normal.

[Grant Hodgson]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by slippery sam on March 05, 2000 at 18:58:52:


yeh well I dont know what motors are in AMCs, but they must be pretty slow, and ol Bart there is a bit brain washed, I spoke to some one yesterday, who has just done some minor work on his motor, and reached 115 kmh in first with a c4 auto and a 2.77 diff, with a mild 351.

so I would say Bart is due for a new car?

seeya

[THE PUNISHER]

In Reply to: Re: the mad max ford falcon posted by Grant on March 07, 2000 at 05:29:36:


: yeh well I dont know what motors are in AMCs, but they must be pretty slow, and ol Bart there is a bit brain washed, I spoke to some one yesterday, who has just done some minor work on his motor, and reached 115 kmh in first with a c4 auto and a 2.77 diff, with a mild 351.

: so I would say Bart is due for a new car?

: seeya

Grant,i don't road race,i drag race and once again.i'm not in a pissing contest with you,i thought we cleared all these privatly?and trust me holmes AMC made some evil rides in their day and when you said earlier that you hit 60 in fist,is that KPH?or MPH? and your absolutly right Grant,i am due for a new car,i hate my 88 Chevy

S 10 slow ass tranny slippin beat to hell piece of shit truck.we do not need no chevy better than ford ,better than mopar better than whatever the hell thread.Nuff Said

Bart